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Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep B, NO NBS."

The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).

But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their religion.

My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the Indiana state health department.

I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital, so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.

Your thoughts?

Dave Hoffman
Camby, IN

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

You can't cure conspiracy theory paranoia, so don't try.

Herschel Lessin MD

On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Dave Hoffman wrote:

> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen
> everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a
> newborn I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold
> red ink "NO Hep B, NO NBS."
>
> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread,
> please).
>
> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom
> what this newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it
> was for religious reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum
> of world religions, and never heard of that one (not even from
> Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian Scientists), so I pressed further.
> She then said that her husband (who wasn't present) was behind it,
> and that they didn't want their baby's DNA stored in the state lab
> indefinitely, where the government might someday do experiments with
> it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their religion.
>
> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of
> off the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn
> screening, and that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity
> to find out NOW if my child had a curable disease, but she held her
> ground. In the baby's chart, I found that the nursing staff had
> already procured a waiver form from the Indiana state health
> department.
>
> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had
> thankfully already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have
> privileges at my hospital, so I won't need to tell them I can't care
> for their kid if we have such a huge philosophical disagreement.
> But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have even heard of such a
> concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of research being done
> using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Dave Hoffman
> Camby, IN
>
>

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

This is the first i heard about it, but in the world of the paranoid, anything is possible. DM TinkelmanMD

> Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 02:01:47 +0000
> From: hidden@email-address
> To: hidden@email-address
> Subject: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?
>
> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep B, NO NBS."
>
> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).
>
> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their religion.
>
> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the Indiana state health department.
>
> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital, so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Dave Hoffman
> Camby, IN
>
>

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

So my wife, the OB, rounded on the mom this morning, and guess what?   The mom convinced the dad that the NBS wasn't such a bad idea after all and the kid will get the test!!

Common sense plus mother-bear instincts ruled today.

Yay.

Dave Hoffman
Camby, IN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hoffman"
To: "PedTalk"
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:01:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep B, NO NBS."

The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).

But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their religion.

My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the Indiana state health department.

I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital, so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.

Your thoughts?

Dave Hoffman
Camby, IN

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Dave Hoffman wrote:
> So my wife, the OB, rounded on the mom this morning, and guess what? The mom convinced the dad that the NBS wasn't such a bad idea after all and the kid will get the test!!
>
>
> Common sense plus mother-bear instincts ruled today.

I remember when I was a resident, I started to talk to a dad about his
smoking. He said that he didn't want to hear it. The first thing out of
his mouth when the attending came in was a question about how bad his
smoking was for his kid. Sometimes the best thing to do is let the
parents alone for a bit and think about what gives the best odds for a
healthy life.

Jeff

> Yay.
>
>
> Dave Hoffman
> Camby, IN
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hoffman"
> To: "PedTalk"
> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 10:01:47 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?
>
> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep B, NO NBS."
>
> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).
>
> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their religion.
>
> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the Indiana state health department.
>
> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital, so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Dave Hoffman
> Camby, IN
>
>

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

WHY is it always dx'd here as the Stupid Parent Syndrome?

While I would NEVER advoctate skipping newborn screening, I do wonder how
much consideration all of you who have dissed parents for being apprehensive
about turning over their children's DNA samples to the government have
considered the issues raised, for example, here:

http://www.bioethics.gov/reports/newborn_screening/chapter3.html

or here:
http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2008/12/researchers_urge_a...

or here:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/13/eveningnews/main5012149.shtml

Frankly, were I to have another child, I'd do the screening privately. Does
that make me paranoid? Or a Conspiracy Theorist?

George

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Dave Hoffman wrote:

> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen
> everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn
> I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep
> B, NO NBS."
>
> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).
>
> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this
> newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious
> reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and
> never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian
> Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who
> wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA
> stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do
> experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their
> religion.
>
> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off
> the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and
> that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my
> child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I
> found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the
> Indiana state health department.
>
> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully
> already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital,
> so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a
> huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have
> even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of
> research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Dave Hoffman
> Camby, IN
>
>

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

While I agree that the step from mandatory metabolite screening to DNA profiling is a short ride on a slippery slope, this family's concern was about unauthorized cloning of the child.  That was the basis of the dad's "religious exemption." 

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "George Lithgow"
To: "Dave Hoffman"
Cc: "PedTalk"
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:20:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Re: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

WHY is it always dx'd here as the Stupid Parent Syndrome?

While I would NEVER advoctate skipping newborn screening, I do wonder how much consideration all of you who have dissed parents for being apprehensive about turning over their children's DNA samples to the government have considered the issues raised, for example, here:

http://www.bioethics.gov/reports/newborn_screening/chapter3.html

or here:  http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2008/12/researchers_urge_a...

or here:  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/13/eveningnews/main5012149.shtml

Frankly, were I to have another child, I'd do the screening privately.  Does that make me paranoid?  Or a Conspiracy Theorist?

George

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Dave Hoffman < hidden@email-address > wrote:

Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep B, NO NBS."

The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).

But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their religion.

My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the Indiana state health department.

I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital, so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.

Your thoughts?

Dave Hoffman
Camby, IN

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Well, in 50 yrs., he might not look so stupid..... Who knows?

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Dave Hoffman wrote:

>
>
> While I agree that the step from mandatory metabolite screening to DNA
> profiling is a short ride on a slippery slope, this family's concern was
> about unauthorized cloning of the child. That was the basis of the dad's
> "religious exemption."
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Lithgow"
> To: "Dave Hoffman"
> Cc: "PedTalk"
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:20:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?
>
> WHY is it always dx'd here as the Stupid Parent Syndrome?
>
> While I would NEVER advoctate skipping newborn screening, I do wonder how
> much consideration all of you who have dissed parents for being apprehensive
> about turning over their children's DNA samples to the government have
> considered the issues raised, for example, here:
>
> http://www.bioethics.gov/reports/newborn_screening/chapter3.html
>
> or here:
> http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2008/12/researchers_urge_a...
>
> or here:
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/13/eveningnews/main5012149.shtml
>
> Frankly, were I to have another child, I'd do the screening privately.
> Does that make me paranoid? Or a Conspiracy Theorist?
>
> George
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Dave Hoffman < hidden@email-address> wrote:
>
>
> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen
> everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a newborn
> I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink "NO Hep
> B, NO NBS."
>
> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread, please).
>
> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom what this
> newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for religious
> reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world religions, and
> never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or Christian
> Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband (who
> wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their baby's DNA
> stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might someday do
> experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against their
> religion.
>
> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think of off
> the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn screening, and
> that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW if my
> child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's chart, I
> found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form from the
> Indiana state health department.
>
> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had thankfully
> already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my hospital,
> so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have such a
> huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any PedTalkers have
> even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of
> research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> Dave Hoffman
> Camby, IN
>
>

Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Who knows, martians may attack as well. Hey, you never know...

Herschel Lessin MD

On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:48 PM, George Lithgow wrote:

> Well, in 50 yrs., he might not look so stupid..... Who knows?
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Dave Hoffman >wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> While I agree that the step from mandatory metabolite screening to
>> DNA
>> profiling is a short ride on a slippery slope, this family's
>> concern was
>> about unauthorized cloning of the child. That was the basis of the
>> dad's
>> "religious exemption."
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Lithgow"
>> To: "Dave Hoffman"
>> Cc: "PedTalk"
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:20:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?
>>
>> WHY is it always dx'd here as the Stupid Parent Syndrome?
>>
>> While I would NEVER advoctate skipping newborn screening, I do
>> wonder how
>> much consideration all of you who have dissed parents for being
>> apprehensive
>> about turning over their children's DNA samples to the government
>> have
>> considered the issues raised, for example, here:
>>
>> http://www.bioethics.gov/reports/newborn_screening/chapter3.html
>>
>> or here:
>> http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2008/12/researchers_urge_a...
>>
>> or here:
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/13/eveningnews/main5012149.shtml
>>
>> Frankly, were I to have another child, I'd do the screening
>> privately.
>> Does that make me paranoid? Or a Conspiracy Theorist?
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Dave Hoffman < hidden@email-address
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen
>> everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a
>> newborn
>> I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink
>> "NO Hep
>> B, NO NBS."
>>
>> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread,
>> please).
>>
>> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom
>> what this
>> newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for
>> religious
>> reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world
>> religions, and
>> never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or
>> Christian
>> Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband
>> (who
>> wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their
>> baby's DNA
>> stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might
>> someday do
>> experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against
>> their
>> religion.
>>
>> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think
>> of off
>> the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn
>> screening, and
>> that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW
>> if my
>> child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's
>> chart, I
>> found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form
>> from the
>> Indiana state health department.
>>
>> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had
>> thankfully
>> already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my
>> hospital,
>> so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have
>> such a
>> huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any
>> PedTalkers have
>> even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of
>> research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
>> Dave Hoffman
>> Camby, IN
>>
>>
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Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Who knows, martians may attack as well. Hey, you never know...

Herschel Lessin MD

On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:48 PM, George Lithgow wrote:

> Well, in 50 yrs., he might not look so stupid..... Who knows?
>
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Dave Hoffman >wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> While I agree that the step from mandatory metabolite screening to
>> DNA
>> profiling is a short ride on a slippery slope, this family's
>> concern was
>> about unauthorized cloning of the child. That was the basis of the
>> dad's
>> "religious exemption."
>>
>>
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Lithgow"
>> To: "Dave Hoffman"
>> Cc: "PedTalk"
>> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 12:20:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>> Subject: Re: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?
>>
>> WHY is it always dx'd here as the Stupid Parent Syndrome?
>>
>> While I would NEVER advoctate skipping newborn screening, I do
>> wonder how
>> much consideration all of you who have dissed parents for being
>> apprehensive
>> about turning over their children's DNA samples to the government
>> have
>> considered the issues raised, for example, here:
>>
>> http://www.bioethics.gov/reports/newborn_screening/chapter3.html
>>
>> or here:
>> http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2008/12/researchers_urge_a...
>>
>> or here:
>> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/13/eveningnews/main5012149.shtml
>>
>> Frankly, were I to have another child, I'd do the screening
>> privately.
>> Does that make me paranoid? Or a Conspiracy Theorist?
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 10:01 PM, Dave Hoffman < hidden@email-address
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> Since I've only been in practice 8 years, I don't claim to have seen
>> everything, but this was a new one today. I grabbed the chart of a
>> newborn
>> I'd already seen yesterday, and it's all marked up in bold red ink
>> "NO Hep
>> B, NO NBS."
>>
>> The Hep B thing I've dealt with before: no biggie (another thread,
>> please).
>>
>> But when I walked into the room to see the baby and asked the mom
>> what this
>> newborn screen concern was all about, she told me that it was for
>> religious
>> reasons. I've cared for kids of the full spectrum of world
>> religions, and
>> never heard of that one (not even from Jehovah's Witnesses or
>> Christian
>> Scientists), so I pressed further. She then said that her husband
>> (who
>> wasn't present) was behind it, and that they didn't want their
>> baby's DNA
>> stored in the state lab indefinitely, where the government might
>> someday do
>> experiments with it for stuff like human cloning, which is against
>> their
>> religion.
>>
>> My blood pressure rising, I told her about the 4 kids I can think
>> of off
>> the top of my head whose lives have been saved by newborn
>> screening, and
>> that I could not imagine passing up the opportunity to find out NOW
>> if my
>> child had a curable disease, but she held her ground. In the baby's
>> chart, I
>> found that the nursing staff had already procured a waiver form
>> from the
>> Indiana state health department.
>>
>> I was assigned this baby as a "No Doc" because these people had
>> thankfully
>> already selected a pediatrician who doesn't have privileges at my
>> hospital,
>> so I won't need to tell them I can't care for their kid if we have
>> such a
>> huge philosophical disagreement. But, I was wondering if any
>> PedTalkers have
>> even heard of such a concern, and also if anyone has any knowledge of
>> research being done using residual newborn screen blood samples.
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
>> Dave Hoffman
>> Camby, IN
>>
>>
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Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

Ah, good. The expected has come from Herschel. Now I can relax and go to
bed.

Nighty, night, Herschel.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Herschel Lessin wrote:

> Who knows, martians may attack as well. Hey, you never know...
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> Herschel Lessin MD
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> On Jun 19, 2009, at 3:48 PM, George Lithgow wrote:
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> > Well, in 50 yrs., he might not look so stupid..... Who knows?
> >
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Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?

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> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:41:47 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Hoffman
> Subject: Re: [PedTalk] Religious Exemption from Newborn Screening?
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> While I agree that the step from mandatory metabolite screening to DNA
> profiling is a short ride on a slippery slope, this family's concern was
> about unauthorized cloning of the child. That was the basis of the dad's
> "religious exemption."

By that argument, you could never have blood drawn at all. (Man, I hope
there aren't rumors out there that blood banks are out to steal your DNA!)
And really, it's not as if human DNA was that hard to come by, assuming you
didn't want to use your own but otherwise didn't much care whose. Just pick
hairs off people's jackets, for pete's sake. (You could find yourself
cloning a cat, of course: shades of Hermione's adventure with the Polyjuice
Potion in Harry Potter!)

Helen Schinske